Population Imbalance
@Carol_Broadsword @John_Broadsword @Lea_Broadsword
Is there anything being done to address the population imbalance that is leaving MID as the permanent under dog?
It’s become impossible to find a fair fight even with an 8 man. Recently there has also been an absolutely despicable trend of Albs and Hibs coordinating together in comms and hitting what few Mids are giving it a go together without engaging each other.
Last week analytics revealed there were 1,005 Albs, 873 Hibs and only 683 Mid players for the week.
With those numbers you might as well permanently place our relics in the red/green.
Is there anything being done to address the population imbalance that is leaving MID as the permanent under dog?
It’s become impossible to find a fair fight even with an 8 man. Recently there has also been an absolutely despicable trend of Albs and Hibs coordinating together in comms and hitting what few Mids are giving it a go together without engaging each other.
Last week analytics revealed there were 1,005 Albs, 873 Hibs and only 683 Mid players for the week.
With those numbers you might as well permanently place our relics in the red/green.
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I switched from Alb to Mid in 2006 after five years because even with population in decline, Alb was overpopulated in every server. So I guess it had the opposite effect on me.
Regarding the Albs & Hibs coordinating, I suspect this is because a couple 8mans have angst towards my group since we don't play the game the same way as them. That is a community problem which also cannot be solved by BS.
"The type of of dev communication of 30 mins a day updates mentioned here just isn't feasible." - Carol_Broadsword
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In return the “RVR alliance” discriminates against the opposing major alliance and this trend is condoned not discouraged.
@Gavner has helped to lead the realm in RVR by creating a set time that Mids can login and RVR until recently. Mids also won’t form a BG for multiple reasons.
I play on Mid majority of the time but dabble in the other two realms. Albion and Hib are much more friendly and willling to help on every single level. Hoping the upcoming realm timer will help.
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"The type of of dev communication of 30 mins a day updates mentioned here just isn't feasible." - Carol_Broadsword
"Our Studio. Our Rules." - http://www.mythicentertainment.com/
Lets not forget the years and years of Midgard being top dog and overpopulated during that time slot.
Population bonus usually won't entice most 8 mans on to a realm, the amount of enemy roaming groups will do that.
If an 8 man plays red is dead vs showing some respect that will also assist in 2 realms ganging up on 1.
Its all about knowing your enemy. Just because you only see the Albs and Hibs killing you, does not meaning they are not killing each other afterwards.
Though you do tend to see certain groups swapping realms if they see the chance to gank the various pugs.
As for hibs and Albs working together eu alb time I haven’t seen it in fact quite the opposite eu Albs in general despise the eu hibs and will try and kill them first.
The instances of hibs and alb groups working together are the groups that swap for rps these groups are not interested in the realm they just wanna gank pugs it’s there coin and they can do what they like but I have seen them work together several times even though they protest that they never Zerg but hey just something they do.
You are from Arsatruar, you run 16 minimum, plus you and Casting Couch are glued to each other from 8 pm to 11 pm EST. I mean it's great that's the way you play, just don't claim to be a small number.
I'm guessing you are being sarcastic when you say we run 16 minimum.... If we ran 16 MINIMUM I'd be rolling up into EV like Prince:
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I do not mind being the scrappy underdog realm-wise, maybe the pendulum will swing the other way, who knows?
Adapt. Smaller, tighter FG's & BGs are the norm now to be more effective against the nightly +numbers. However all are welcome to run with around this time.
Claims that Live's demise/dead-ness are greatly exaggerated imho.
Thanks to Gav for his work running an earlier BG that started at midnight his time. Few players these days in daoc gives this much time and effort stepping up and and leading in what is a thankless job at times. It's so much easier to /stick, maybe pay attention to BG lead while uploading moneyshots on Instagram or whatev's, and to dramatize/troll.
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The realm timers can’t come soon enough. It will help to slow down realm hopping in RVR.
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As for general pop there seems to be a rise upwards seeing more solos and small mans around and there’s been some crazy fights on ev with 8 s 16s and mini zergs
Having dark knights and luvly come back even if it’s for an event is a step in the right direction be nice to see her back she’s been missed on alb.
I just hope broadsword get the free to play model right.
I really don't get what people want to achieve with realm timers.
Realm timers only effect those who choose to hop realms for dailies.. Its just a matter of how long the timers are, if they actually effect the over all play..I enjoy all realms so i understand your point. Realm timers can effect certain things.. for instance taking a relic.. those who helped take a relic for the rps and not enjoying the ride back could easily hop on another realm and form up for a fight (Which im not against). Situations like that deem for it i suppose?
The issue is that realm timers are a bit of a lazy solution to solve that, there a million solutions to this that won't negatively affect the players that like swapping realms.
Also, another issue imo is they were VERY insistent on joining voice chats. To the point where they would not group you if you didn’t.
Very frustrating.
Theres a timer when you ninja log on your stealther
You know it's a permanent state.
Luckily not everyone on Mid is a jerk and once you get to know them they will start to group you. @Mace80 if you cannot join comms to even listen then you are a significant liability to the group.
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"The type of of dev communication of 30 mins a day updates mentioned here just isn't feasible." - Carol_Broadsword
"Our Studio. Our Rules." - http://www.mythicentertainment.com/
And all the swearing. I have grandkids around a lot of the time. I can't have that going on. In the days of Guinevere and Igraine and Gareth we never needed voice chat for anything.
Also, I type like crap, so yeah I need voice chat. lol
Most common complaints:
1) Can't find group
2) Can't solo because you get zerged by full groups from realms where you can find groups
3) Other realms have stealth zergs. Ours barely have any groups
Last night there were 6 Mids in NF, 3 of them were me and my buffbots. Still there were FGA and FGH roaming.
Then I ported into AT and there was a FGH stealthers hiding in the roof waiting for someone to port in. Well I ported in and they lost the only person who was still around to fall into their trap.
Literally only Nevermore will go out of their way to help returning players and they are shunned by the ‘RVR alliance’ for doing so.
Hib and Alb are overall much more welcoming to returning players and willing to help in every single aspect.
Granted not all of Mid is unfriendly but it’s the same ole closed minded thinking that continues to hurt Mids not help everyone in Midgard.
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You aren’t speaking the truth broseph! I personally spent about 1200 plat in the past two weeks to hook up new or returning players. I actively help those who need it. I want to keep the game alive and that means being a friendly member of the Mid community. Everyone I know and spend time with in game is feels the same.
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When I switched to mid full time, I had no problem getting a group on Mid or anything I needed. Lets be honest, you have to be accessible, flexible and take the good with the bad. I have ran into a few toxic people, but thats not the majority.
Since a few of the people I started on mid with created a guild, we have taken people in, and completely set them up with whatever they needed. Sometimes its a full template where we all pitch in what we can to get player up to speed, and sometimes just a few key items needed. However, some of the people we hooked up ditched us after they we all set up and for that we take better precautions now on those situations.
I usually play US prime time and that may have a factor in the people I met vs other people’s experiences.
Whined about Static tempest, whined about thanes, whined about how all their classes are **** and they all need buffs, whined they needed another wall climb class, when SMs got their lifetap nerfed they whined about Body cabs (wtf), they even whined that healers should have a charmable pet and a baseline DD...
Now they whine about population when the last two years they outnumbered any other zerg 2:1... And even then they are still zerging stuff down even past Rescu's log time
As much as I agree with this statement Albion whines just as much and even hib whines. Everyone whines because everyone wants it their way.
This community has turned into a very toxic b*tch fest about who is this and that. When in reality Midgard is in the sh*tter because OUR playerbase refuses to work together. The ones that are willing to join with others are not willing to learn and adapt their playstyles or even simply listen to their leader. All they want is brainless RPs. The ones that are decent are not willing to group or help for the greater good of the realm.
Midgard playerbase is abysmal to say the least.
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Past few nights have been a lot of fun. Lots of people on at night on all realms.
I do agree to some degree, I just feel like a lot of the recent changes have been to adjust Mid classes based on the extremely vocal and never objective (Muylock) whining.
About the community, my opinion is that Mid relied on Xyorman for so long to get anything done. Now that he's gone to a warmer place nothing gets done (in a unified way).
Alb rely on Rescu and that went to hell when he took a break because of his argument with Nate.
Hib don't rely on anyone. Shaylon did run one from time to time, but he left to zerg on mid and hib still manages to run a BG from time to time. It's mostly when FoH does guild/alliance event.
So.... I suppose that instead of relying on a single individual, mid should see what guilds want to run together, create an alliance and make alliance events instead of waiting on a savior.
My 2 cents.