Official forums or not?

Tanky · October 2018

@Carol_Broadsword

Is this DAoC "official" forums or Nate's personal ego blog? Seriously. This isn't postcount. Does BS care what example is being set here? Every single day a post from him.
Imagine a new player (rare I know) comes here and sees this garbage, what do you think will happen? If it were me I'd be turned off by the lack of control here and the nonstop spam from one individual....

Natebruner · October 2018

Tanky wrote: »

@Carol_Broadsword

Is this DAoC "official" forums or Nate's personal ego blog? Seriously. This isn't postcount. Does BS care what example is being set here? Every single day a post from him.
Imagine a new player (rare I know) comes here and sees this garbage, what do you think will happen? If it were me I'd be turned off by the lack of control here and the nonstop spam from one individual....

I would be upset if I sat in those keeps refusing to fight all night too.

Tanky · October 2018

Thanks Carol@broadsword for ignoring this post. My accounts end at end of the month. Fromm ego stitical account buying cheaters to a horrible alb patch. Good luck keeping players.

Natebruner · October 2018

Tanky wrote: »

Thanks Carol@broadsword for ignoring this post. My accounts end at end of the month. Fromm ego stitical account buying cheaters to a horrible alb patch. Good luck keeping players.

Thanks for playing Dark Age of Camelot !

Fateboi · October 2018

I’ll bite, stick all the videos into one single thread, so him and his buddies can post there.

Carol_Broadsword · October 2018

Apologies, I had this written but it didn't post, went into drafts.

There is nothing wrong with posting videos of fights and a little game banter. When the line crosses into personal attacks or anything that breaks our rules as per our CoC (https://forum.darkageofcamelot.com/code-of-conduct), on any side, they will be modded.

Huehuaehue · October 2018

ROFL

Natebruner · October 2018

Huehuaehue wrote: »

ROFL

ROFL ROFL

Jak · October 2018

3 - Refrain from using vulgar and crude language. - You must not post any obscene messages or pictures, including pornography or links to said material. Doing so may result in an instant ban.
Code of Conduct

Sorry to see you cancel Tanky.

Natebruner · October 2018

BYE BYE TANKY

Gavner · October 2018

@Natebruner @Carol_Broadsword

With all due respect, this topic comes up lots of times for a reason. While many may like / dislike Nate, I hear complains about his style not only on forums, but a returning topic here.

However I do understand that his divisive style is not a reason yet to do anything about it, out of 50 posts 13 is his own on first page, 20 on second which is 40% (due to patch more new topics made nowdays). Those who like his topics less, definitely sees these number of topics little overboard - some might even call it a spam.

I can't deny that he also has his followers, and constant raids helped Albion's numbers.

Maybe it is a fair argument to think about a separate Realm vs Realm main topic for these kinds of daily happenings on frontiers? Nate or not, in a PvP game these topics will always bring some amount of aggression from any side, so it might be useful to separate it.

Of course this is just a suggestion, but maybe more useful then to suggest renaming the site to forum.darkageofnatealot.com ;P

Natebruner · October 2018

Gavner wrote: »

@Natebruner @Carol_Broadsword

With all due respect, this topic comes up lots of times for a reason. While many may like / dislike Nate, I hear complains about his style not only on forums, but a returning topic here.

However I do understand that his divisive style is not a reason yet to do anything about it, out of 50 posts 13 is his own on first page, 20 on second which is 40% (due to patch more new topics made nowdays). Those who like his topics less, definitely sees these number of topics little overboard - some might even call it a spam.

I can't deny that he also has his followers, and constant raids helped Albion's numbers.

Maybe it is a fair argument to think about a separate Realm vs Realm main topic for these kinds of daily happenings on frontiers? Nate or not, in a PvP game these topics will always bring some amount of aggression from any side, so it might be useful to separate it.

Of course this is just a suggestion, but maybe more useful then to suggest renaming the site to forum.darkageofnatealot.com ;P

IF YOU NO LIKE... NO OPEN.
NO LIKE VIDEO.. NO WATCH
NO LIKE TO DIE.. NO NO TO LOGGING IN

Amp_Phetamine · October 2018

Not sure why so many are upset. I'd love to get daily FREE strategy guides. Nate's actually helping the Hib and Mid community with his video posts.

Snaillyn · October 2018

I think this is great, Nate is making people on the official boards complain so much they want to make BS create a separate place for his stuff. Everyone can do the same stuff he is doing, either put something up here so it floods him out or just read the same stuff everyday like everyone else. Sucks seeing the mids/hibs just complain about posts when they should be making videos to counter Nates. Otherwise we just see alb point of view.

GL

Amp_Phetamine · October 2018

Snaillyn wrote: »

I think this is great, Nate is making people on the official boards complain so much they want to make BS create a separate place for his stuff. Everyone can do the same stuff he is doing, either put something up here so it floods him out or just read the same stuff everyday like everyone else. Sucks seeing the mids/hibs just complain about posts when they should be making videos to counter Nates. Otherwise we just see alb point of view.

GL

Agree'd. @zzx actually started doing just that for mid fights and it made for good entertainment as well as introducing alternative view points.

Xyorman · October 2018

Amp_Phetamine wrote: »

Not sure why so many are upset. I'd love to get daily FREE strategy guides. Nate's actually helping the Hib and Mid community with his video posts.

Strategy -- that word DOES NOT mean what you think it means --- lol, strategy -- made me laugh though -- good one

Natebruner · October 2018

Xyorman wrote: »

Amp_Phetamine wrote: »

Not sure why so many are upset. I'd love to get daily FREE strategy guides. Nate's actually helping the Hib and Mid community with his video posts.

Strategy -- that word DOES NOT mean what you think it means --- lol, strategy -- made me laugh though -- good one

You should try it... MID BG would be larger if you did.

Natebruner · October 2018

Xyorman wrote: »

Amp_Phetamine wrote: »

Not sure why so many are upset. I'd love to get daily FREE strategy guides. Nate's actually helping the Hib and Mid community with his video posts.

Strategy -- that word DOES NOT mean what you think it means --- lol, strategy -- made me laugh though -- good one

In fact you should ask yourself how the mighty MIDGARD BG of old became so weak and why?

The answer is : POOR STRATEGY = less numbers.

Gavner · October 2018

Let me phrase it elseway, Nate loves to brag, hope thats light enough. For many, hes the cool guy around here, thats fine, but its not sheer luck he brings reaction from community.

Yes, counter-videos might help, or more activity on forums, but thats unlikely to happen, so regardless people love or hate him, everyone gets greeted with constant nate vid, and love/hate letter topics on general daily.

I personally will login Nate thanks, I am totally fine with your videos as I do not watch em as you also suggested, I am just 100% sure you do not care to spam less, even if asked nicely. I am perfectly sure those people complained before in your cases are all wrong, and you are just a lovely, misunderstood guy. I just don't like if you drive away some people from forums, even if its not me tho.

p.s.: does it hurt so badly if local celebrities gets called out sometimes? I mean, who care really, by tomorrow he will make another 4 topics and this be gone.

Sovereign · October 2018

The constant barrage of Nate threads makes the official forum look very Postcountish in nature. I think separating official topic discussions from personal threads makes sense. In a sense it would echo how Postcount was separated. The only reason I would say to separate these types of threads from topic related threads further than it already is, is purely because of the official nature this forum implies.

Auf_Nymf · October 2018

The Easy fix
Klick

Auf_Nymf · October 2018

Then

Natebruner · October 2018

Gavner wrote: »

Let me phrase it elseway, Nate loves to brag, hope thats light enough. For many, hes the cool guy around here, thats fine, but its not sheer luck he brings reaction from community.

Yes, counter-videos might help, or more activity on forums, but thats unlikely to happen, so regardless people love or hate him, everyone gets greeted with constant nate vid, and love/hate letter topics on general daily.

I personally will login Nate thanks, I am totally fine with your videos as I do not watch em as you also suggested, I am just 100% sure you do not care to spam less, even if asked nicely. I am perfectly sure those people complained before in your cases are all wrong, and you are just a lovely, misunderstood guy. I just don't like if you drive away some people from forums, even if its not me tho.

p.s.: does it hurt so badly if local celebrities gets called out sometimes? I mean, who care really, by tomorrow he will make another 4 topics and this be gone.

Counter videos are unlikely to happen I agree b/c.. who want to counter with DIRT NAPS VIDS

ROFL LOL ROFL ~!~~~

Sovereign · October 2018

Auf_Nymf wrote: »

Then

Ignoring one individual doesn't address the concern/idea that personal threads might be better off separated from topic specific threads that, I believe, is the overall goal of an official forum. But I do agree that if individuals have an issue with a specific person, they should fully make use of the "ignore" feature.

Gavner · October 2018

None m8! You are right.

Note: Ignore doesn't make his topics go away, neither 5 limit enough for his loyal household. Not like it counts if thats the standard to any newcomer finds this Offical forums.

Siambra · October 2018

I believe official DAOC forums means that forums that DAOC owns as opposed to forums owned by another entity. This allows DAOC to exert as much control as they wish. The content is governed by the player base as long as it isn't outside of the forum rules. Just as with Discord, I read the posts that interest me, ignore the rest and play the game for my enjoyment.

BurkleyRIP · October 2018

For some of the albs, Nate is the realms savior. for others, he is a necessary evil. for the other realms, he is like nails on a chalkboard. Basically depending on where you fall on that list is the determining factor of how you feel about the propaganda video threads. I enjoyed them in the beginning personally, but they have devolved from sparking interest in alb, to just wanting to annoy the other realms. I liked what Nate was doing in the beginning but I feel it has gone in a different direction than just uniting Albion and changing he way they inherently fight battles.

Henrock · October 2018

Maybe we should change the name of the category to General Nate instead?

Charmarmy · October 2018

I agree with the topic of this post. I came on here today looking for the 1.125 bugs thread to see where we are at testing/any new bugs found and its somewhat ridiculous how quickly posts get moved down the first page or two the second page because of this guy. Just make a new chat for him to boast about himself in.

Huehuaehue · October 2018

haters gonna hate and ainters gonna aint, as the rippers keep on rippin huaehuaehuae

Natebruner · October 2018

Huehuaehue wrote: »

haters gonna hate and ainters gonna aint, as the rippers keep on rippin huaehuaehuae

if the enemy would win more than 1 fight a week- we wouldn't have so many vids lol

Tanky · October 2018

@Carol_Broadsword , please see above suggestions. Thanks.

Natebruner · October 2018

BurkleyRIP wrote: »

For some of the albs, Nate is the realms savior. for others, he is a necessary evil. for the other realms, he is like nails on a chalkboard. Basically depending on where you fall on that list is the determining factor of how you feel about the propaganda video threads. I enjoyed them in the beginning personally, but they have devolved from sparking interest in alb, to just wanting to annoy the other realms. I liked what Nate was doing in the beginning but I feel it has gone in a different direction than just uniting Albion and changing he way they inherently fight battles.

"Nate is the realms savior" - hmmm there are too many folks to name who make this possible. Not just me.

"changing the way they inherently fight battles" yes to win

zzx · October 2018

Amp_Phetamine wrote: »

Snaillyn wrote: »

I think this is great, Nate is making people on the official boards complain so much they want to make BS create a separate place for his stuff. Everyone can do the same stuff he is doing, either put something up here so it floods him out or just read the same stuff everyday like everyone else. Sucks seeing the mids/hibs just complain about posts when they should be making videos to counter Nates. Otherwise we just see alb point of view.

GL

Agree'd. @zzx actually started doing just that for mid fights and it made for good entertainment as well as introducing alternative view points.

That's the plan, I just don't have as much time to play for the next month. But thanks for recognizing.
Also video editing can be some what time consuming.

I'll be honest, as much as I dislike Nate's video quality and his verbal remarks in his videos, I do enjoy having DAOC content to watch on my lunch break. Either way i'll keep posting the occasional videos and avoid hitting the "spam level."

DaRedANT · October 2018

Carol_Broadsword wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with posting videos of fights and a little game banter. When the line crosses into personal attacks or anything that breaks our rules as per our CoC (https://forum.darkageofcamelot.com/code-of-conduct), on any side, they will be modded.

Carol has spoken. Nate 1, OP 0

Sovereign · October 2018

Carol_Broadsword wrote: »

Apologies, I had this written but it didn't post, went into drafts.

There is nothing wrong with posting videos of fights and a little game banter. When the line crosses into personal attacks or anything that breaks our rules as per our CoC (https://forum.darkageofcamelot.com/code-of-conduct), on any side, they will be modded.

There are many examples of things that occurred in the game that were not against the rules but were later adjusted due to player feedback and critique. I don't think anyone is outright claiming that these posts are violating any kind of rules, we are expressing that the spam level that is being achieved is detracting from the idea that the official forums are where one can go to find useful and pertinent information related to the game.

Rulother · October 2018

Sovereign wrote: »

Carol_Broadsword wrote: »

Apologies, I had this written but it didn't post, went into drafts.

There is nothing wrong with posting videos of fights and a little game banter. When the line crosses into personal attacks or anything that breaks our rules as per our CoC (https://forum.darkageofcamelot.com/code-of-conduct), on any side, they will be modded.

There are many examples of things that occurred in the game that were not against the rules but were later adjusted due to player feedback and critique. I don't think anyone is outright claiming that these posts are violating any kind of rules, we are expressing that the spam level that is being achieved is detracting from the idea that the official forums are where one can go to find useful and pertinent information related to the game.

Don't quite think 1-2 threads a day would count as spam. I mean if you compare it to the amount of new thread generated everyday sure by everyone else, they probably make up about 50% of all new threads at that point.

Sovereign · October 2018

Natebruner wrote: »

if the enemy would win more than 1 fight a week- we wouldn't have so many vids lol

I seriously doubt you are being truthful in this statement based off of your posting history.

Sovereign · October 2018

Rulother wrote: »

Don't quite think 1-2 threads a day would count as spam. I mean if you compare it to the amount of new thread generated everyday sure by everyone else, they probably make up about 50% of all new threads at that point.

I would have to disagree; one to two threads per day on the same subject I find is very characteristic of spam. If these were emails, the content of them and the reoccurring source would probably see them sent to the spam/junk folder by default.

Now, I'm not saying that these threads shouldn't be allowed on the forums, but I'm saying that the spam-like nature of them should warrant that they be located in another part of the forum instead of the forefront.

Tyrantanic · October 2018

I will also be posting videos when I have my characters setup in Mid to provide some PoV balance.

Rulother · October 2018

Beetleguisse wrote: »

I will also be posting videos when I have my characters setup in Mid to provide some PoV balance.

Good, I love seeing any and all new videos that are posted on this forum. I just love daoc videos

Baby · October 2018

Siambra wrote: »

I believe official DAOC forums means that forums that DAOC owns as opposed to forums owned by another entity. This allows DAOC to exert as much control as they wish. The content is governed by the player base as long as it isn't outside of the forum rules. Just as with Discord, I read the posts that interest me, ignore the rest and play the game for my enjoyment.

There's also this lil star button you can click on;) to bookmark topics you are interested in;) and get to them right away;) (and or the button right next to it to unsubscribe;) ) It's also what I do;)
hugs @Siambra

Jak · October 2018

Sovereign wrote: »

Rulother wrote: »

Don't quite think 1-2 threads a day would count as spam. I mean if you compare it to the amount of new thread generated everyday sure by everyone else, they probably make up about 50% of all new threads at that point.

I would have to disagree; one to two threads per day on the same subject I find is very characteristic of spam. If these were emails, the content of them and the reoccurring source would probably see them sent to the spam/junk folder by default.

Now, I'm not saying that these threads shouldn't be allowed on the forums, but I'm saying that the spam-like nature of them should warrant that they be located in another part of the forum instead of the forefront.

I would have to agree with this assessment.

While there is a work-around that someone has pointed out, you should not have to be bombarded with the spam when you come to an official board looking for information pertaining to the game.

Perhaps make other location that is specifically just for Daoc videos and not clog up the general forum.

Natebruner · October 2018

Maybe the other bg could win more fights ?

Baby · October 2018

General Board
General Board
For general discussion covering all DAoC topics.

He's not posting on every single location on the boards;) just general;)

Daelin · October 2018

I'm hoping that BS will implement the ability to completely ignore a poster including any and all topics he/she makes. Currently the system only allows them to gray out and not show a response but topics opened up are still showing. Please make it so ignore doesn't show topics from those being ignored. Just a suggestion @Carol_Broadsword

Sovereign · October 2018

Baby wrote: »

General Board
General Board
For general discussion covering all DAoC topics.

He's not posting on every single location on the boards;) just general;)

No one is accusing him of "posting on every single location". Also, I believe, as the board is currently structured, that he is posting in the appropriate area. What I am saying, is that the amount that he is posting about the same topic, is clogging up the general board area and making it difficult for those to see other topics and that is why the current organization of the official forums/general board might need to be looked at to address this issue.

Natebruner · October 2018

Daelin wrote: »

I'm hoping that BS will implement the ability to completely ignore a poster including any and all topics he/she makes. Currently the system only allows them to gray out and not show a response but topics opened up are still showing. Please make it so ignore doesn't show topics from those being ignored. Just a suggestion @Carol_Broadsword

That's like suggesting Connor ignore Khabib. I often think studying the opponent and improving gameplay/strategy is the answer. It's likely Connor has no chance, but you better not ignore what Khabib is good at !

Sovereign · October 2018

Natebruner wrote: »

That's like suggesting Connor ignore Khabib. I often think studying the opponent and improving gameplay/strategy is the answer. It's likely Connor has no chance, but you better not ignore what Khabib is good at !

No, it's not like that at all. Not everyone who comes to these boards does so to find out what latest antics any one individual is up to. People that come to these boards for information about a specific topic don't necessarily want to wade through "look at what I did today/yesterday" posts and the option to completely ignore threads by individuals that post spam-like threads would greatly aide them in getting to the information they seek quickly.

Natebruner · October 2018

Sovereign wrote: »

Natebruner wrote: »

That's like suggesting Connor ignore Khabib. I often think studying the opponent and improving gameplay/strategy is the answer. It's likely Connor has no chance, but you better not ignore what Khabib is good at !

No, it's not like that at all. Not everyone who comes to these boards does so to find out what latest antics any one individual is up to. People that come to these boards for information about a specific topic don't necessarily want to wade through "look at what I did today/yesterday" posts and the option to completely ignore threads by individuals that post spam-like threads would greatly aide them in getting to the information they seek quickly.

Your old bg should have been studying and improving gameplay/strategy vs Xyorman Mid bg. Running to the middle of EV to wipe while getting the buggane everyday just wasn't smart play. Didn't you quit with Rescu awhile back?

Sovereign · October 2018

Natebruner wrote: »

Your old bg should have been studying and improving gameplay/strategy vs Xyorman Mid bg. Running to the middle of EV to wipe while getting the buggane everyday just wasn't smart play. Didn't you quit with Rescu awhile back?

Another statement that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion but instead tries to draw some kind of emotional reaction.

Official forums or not?

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