Nightshade ML: Drop Stormlord and replace with Battlemaster

Practician · February 2020

Stormlord is next to useless. Battlemaster would be much more utilitarian for nightshade class and in-line with the other assassins.

Dreamscape · February 2020

Didn't they gut the other line with taking away mezz poison and lookout not working?

Kymatius · February 2020

I would love to see this added. Open up more ML options to classes.

Mace80 · February 2020

As much as I hate to support anything that benefits stealth...especially hib stealth.... It really is a fair request given what their peers receive.

47el · February 2020

thought it went with their magic spells----are they then giving them up ??

Dreamscape · February 2020

47el wrote: »

thought it went with their magic spells----are they then giving them up ??

Hasn't their magic damage been nerfed on the NS? Don't see whey they couldn't be brought in line with the other classes.

Koe · February 2020

Not a fan of assassins bodyguarding archers.

DaRedANT · February 2020

Would prefer they take away BM from SBs and Infs.

But...either way I think it should be consistent across the realms.

Badnagen · February 2020

Practician wrote: »

Stormlord is next to useless. Battlemaster would be much more utilitarian for nightshade class and in-line with the other assassins.

Shut your mouth. My shade is a stormlord. It has great uses. If you want to bodyguard a ranger.......make a ranger.

Kroko · February 2020

@Badnagen
Can you explain where it is useful?

Practician · February 2020

one of very few NS with this. BM would be much more useful and in-line with their abilities.

Pleazing · February 2020

As soon as they give the Healer class battle master

Amurdora · February 2020

I would prefer stormlord on an assassin if I played one still. It’s always been under utilized.

Kymatius · February 2020

I second both Healers and Nightshades getting BM.

Llewd · February 2020

Just give storms a significant cast reduction. So that they are usable in an actual fight.

Amurdora · February 2020

Llewd wrote: »

Just give storms a significant cast reduction. So that they are usable in an actual fight.

This is actually a really good idea. Insta cast, 10 min re-use, last 1 min.

Practician · February 2020

This could easily happen with a hot fix or in 1.127 patch. It was very easy to change necros from storm lords to war lords. Nightshade battlemaster will be very easy and much needed change.

Amp_Phetamine · February 2020

remove body guard from battle master

Kroko · February 2020

@Amp_Phetamine
did you just want to say sth stupid or what was the point?

Tyrantanic · February 2020

Bodyguard is pretty lame. Well, against tank trains.

Amp_Phetamine · February 2020

Kroko wrote: »

@Amp_Phetamine
did you just want to say sth stupid or what was the point?

I was being 100% serious. Body guard has no place in battle master let alone this game.

Dreamscape · February 2020

Amp_Phetamine wrote: »

Kroko wrote: »

@Amp_Phetamine
did you just want to say sth stupid or what was the point?

I was being 100% serious. Body guard has no place in battle master let alone this game.

Would rather see bodyguard reduce damage taken by the target by 90% and they can still be interrupted instead of them being untouchable and able to free cast.

Enkertons · February 2020

Bodyguard is generally not that bad. However, a good compromise that was proposed wayyyyyy back in Old Frontiers is to give it intercept mechanics (where the bodyguard takes the hits applicable to their own resists, ABS, etc.)

Enkertons · February 2020

You could also only allow certain spells while BGed idk

Badnagen · March 2020

Kroko wrote: »

@Badnagen
Can you explain where it is useful?

climb oil, push storms in lord room to interupt healers, prevent rezes at the lord. A climber can get storms in places a caster cant.

Dreamscape · March 2020

Badnagen wrote: »

Kroko wrote: »

@Badnagen
Can you explain where it is useful?

climb oil, push storms in lord room to interupt healers, prevent rezes at the lord. A climber can get storms in places a caster cant.

Just so an enemy caster can push it right out, just seems pointless compared to other sins.

DaRedANT · March 2020

If you’re being bodyguarded, you can cast, but cannot Melee correct? This would give NS an advantage Infs/SBs don’t have. (Picture a NS BGing another NS)

As Randy Jackson says, “That’s gonna be a no for me dawg”.

Triq02_Dave · March 2020

You can melee as well

Dreamscape · March 2020

Triq02_Dave wrote: »

You can melee as well

DaRedANT wrote: »

If you’re being bodyguarded, you can cast, but cannot Melee correct? This would give NS an advantage Infs/SBs don’t have. (Picture a NS BGing another NS)

As Randy Jackson says, “That’s gonna be a no for me dawg”.

You can /face, cast, /use items but you just can't move.
I would worry more about an archer being bodyguarded instead of a NS, which the others realms can do atm.

Practician · March 2020

“Ok but make it so” as Picard said. Insta or 2.0s interruptible!

Practician · May 2020

make it so!

Practician · May 2020

1.127=nightshade battlemasters!

Kroko · May 2020

I thought you play a hero now.
RR12 !

Practician · May 2020

There is only the Nightshade and my bard bot.

Practician · May 2020

Nightshade battlemaster needed. Stormlord is USELESS!

Respen · May 2020

Back when people had their bots in port keeps instead of the border keeps, Stello and I would push storms into the keeps to see whose bot we could kill. Drummed up some fun fights similar to the way assassins do with siege towers now. Been a hot minute, and everyone using the relic towns kind of makes it obsolete.

Fateboi · May 2020

Less homogenization as the magic based Sin it makes sense for them.

Enkertons · May 2020

Reasonable request from an unreasonable person.

BumblesZERG · May 2020

The magic based Sin gets magic based alternative ML. Working as intended.

Practician · July 2020

drop the stormlord ML line for NS like you did with the necro and replace with battlemaster. much more utilitarian. do the math. VERY few ns stormlords. battlemaster is much more useful for this class

Kroko · July 2020

And shar nightshade please! this is very important topic.

Fateboi · July 2020

No bias in this thread at all...

Nothing to see here move along

Practician · July 2020

it is dripping with bias as I am the top NS, unless masina does one of his random and rare log-ins. that said carol said in stream recently that shar ns or ns battlemaster are in consideration for the time being.

Dale_Perf · July 2020

Practician wrote: »

it is dripping with bias as I am the top NS, unless masina does one of his random and rare log-ins. that said carol said in stream recently that shar ns or ns battlemaster are in consideration for the time being.

breaking news from @Carol_Broadsword

Carol_Broadsword · July 2020

Practician wrote: »

it is dripping with bias as I am the top NS, unless masina does one of his random and rare log-ins. that said carol said in stream recently that shar ns or ns battlemaster are in consideration for the time being.

No I didn't, I said there was no plans for new class/race pairings with this patch but I'd pass on your feedback.

Names · July 2020

Lol get burned @practician (only joking with ya)

Armagedden · July 2020

@Practician ... watching you try to gloat and get burned... how exactly do you justify being "the top NS" anyway? You are trash that gets whomped as a solo, so you zerg. Masina is 1000x better NS than you... I just don't see how anyone in your position can feel confident actually saying that publicly...

Shoke · July 2020

I don't think @Practician is actually serious when he says he's a good NS.

Armagedden · July 2020

If it was a troll then it was a good one. fooled me

Practician · July 2020

I meant to say "are NOT." but that was my mistake.

Armagedden · July 2020

Practician wrote: »

I meant to say "are NOT." but that was my mistake.

FYI I don't hate you for stealth zerging... I've actually never hated stealth zergs tbh. But got dang calling yourself the top NS that was the trigger

Nightshade ML: Drop Stormlord and replace with Battlemaster

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