Paladin - Two-Handed DPS
What is the actual variance/difference of sub-spec'ing Thrust/Slash/Crush while using a Two-Handed Weapon for a Paladin?
Is it honestly worth it? Jam the extra points into Parry instead?
Is it honestly worth it? Jam the extra points into Parry instead?
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Just get a couple respec stones and try hitting the lvl 50 dummy a bunch with 0 into 1-h, half into 1-h, then full composite and see what kind of difference it makes
comp weapon
48chants
7shield
Rest Parry
Spec I enjoyed most. I sure as hell wouldn't run without comp weapon as a 2h pala.
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See link for formula: http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Melee_Damage
Composite weapon spec is necessary to avoid large damage variances.
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Im not worried about doing 1H damage, as much as my variance with 2H, as I am not spec'ing into shield at all. I just am needing to know how significant of a difference I will have with no sub-spec, rather than lowering my Parry ( my only defensive against other melee's ) so that I can compensate for maybe a 20 damage variance, that would not be worth it to me.
If I can Parry 5-10% more of the time, rather than doing +\-50 damage with a 2H swing, I would rather Parry more.
Any thoughts?
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From what I have researched, it's fairly tough to cap parry, because a large portion of your % is based off of your opponents weaponskill.. Could you elaborate a little more, please?
EDIT: I've heard that there isnt really a thing as "over capping Parry" because of this factor...
The cap is 50%. Enemy's WS may lower your parry rate, so hitting 50% should be your minimum target.
Overcap 5-10% if you can, either way on pally 2h you're going to be looking at Mopar6-7 maybe more at low-mid RR.
22Parry +dex + Mopar7 for my pala to hit 50%
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How did you calculate your percentage? And what was it based off of? If your targets Weaponskill is 2500, how does that fluctuate your percentage to parry? Is your math based off of a target dummy with 0 weaponskill?
I use charplan to calculate my block/parry/evade, as outdated as it is. I just get to where it says 50% and then give myself a few more levels of moparry (whatever I can afford). From what I heard, higher weaponskill classes counter your parry rate in the dexterity part of the calculation. So from what I understand is moparry is a solid number where you % parry from dex is lowered based on your opponents WS.
Who really knows though... I wouldn't lose sleep over it
x .025
Then you add a base 5%
Each skill point you have is .5%
Or this courtesy of Gaven
It's easiest to assume your dex modified parry/block rate gives no bonus after enemy weapontable(or skill) is calculated. The only exception to this is extremely high dex like 400+ like a scout may have. In other words ignore dex and enemy weaponskill. Its simpler and more accurate that way.
Best estimate VS any opponent is the normal calculation of:
BaseParry 5% + TotalSpec (spec + RR bonus + item bonus) * .5% + mastery of parry% + Mythical parry%
2h still seems to get a parry bonus of another 5% (double your base parry chance but only if you have parry spec available)
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Thanks guys for your input, answered alot of questions, appreciate it. Solid feedback.
EDIT: Do you guys think a certain weapon type has a higher base of Weaponskill? Or is that not a thing? Like a 2h sword vs. 2h axe/hammer ?
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Na, but I would say go thrust if you are just 2-h because its good vs mid chain, neutral to all hib, and hallowed greatsword. and use leggies vs stuff that vulnerable to thrust but also not against heavies obviously.
Edit: and you get spear of kings also.
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Has anyone tested this more extensively?
Aw man.. I actually spec'd into Crush.. No bueno?
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b) they don't have enough spec points
so nerf their healing and give them more spec points so they can be better tanks....
just my opinion.
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albion should be the realm with 2 heavy tanks ... even if one is some sort of a hybrid. just not the sort of OP healer tank hybrid.