Stackable Potions

Kealadron · January 2019

Would like to see this feature implemented same as the stack you got for x-mas in a way to conserve bag space. Generally carrying way to many items needed for RvR and when going into PvE for fun or farm having to completely empty bags into house vaults and such just add another step to the process. More of a quality of life fix than anything. Making pots stackable to atleast 10 or 20 would be wonderful that would allow for pot stacks that give 600 charges depending on the potion type.

Auberne · January 2019

The forums have spoken.

RonELuvv · January 2019

I would agree with this 100% IF they had not put in cauldrons. You don't need to stack them when you can run 99 charge cauldrons.

Carol_Broadsword · January 2019

The ones at midwinter aren't a stack, it just is the name of it but it's 1 potion with 240 charges. Cauldrons were added that are a larger charge count option and save on space

Kealadron · January 2019

The material requirements to make a cauldron exceed the charges you'd get if you made those potions individually so we got a system that really does us no good other than saving bag space.

Snaillyn · January 2019

That’s what people complained about, not having enough bag space. They did this and I just started throwing away stuff and making room, short on charges for quantity of mats. Not worth it to waist materials.

tald · January 2019

Kealadron wrote: »

The material requirements to make a cauldron exceed the charges you'd get if you made those potions individually so we got a system that really does us no good other than saving bag space.

can you give us the calculations showing how much it exceeds it by

RonELuvv · January 2019

I can't give the calculations @tald, but I do know that they do require more ingredients and essences. I could be wrong on these #'s, but I believe if you used the same ingredients and essences you would get 4 draughts (120 charges) to get 1 cauldron (99 charges). It would be tough to match them equally though, since draughts are 30 charges and cauldrons are 99. I almost wish they had just made cauldrons 90 charges and then made it so they were the same cost in ingredients as 3x draughts. Honestly, I never minded the draughts as they were. 30 charges per potion is not bad at all, and I don't think running with 2-3 of each potion players use is a problem. Sup (3), celerity (3), omni-regen (3), omni heal (2), restoration (2) is what I run with and 13 potions is not that much space when you have 40 slots open in your bag and you could put the extras in your /bank if you really wanted to save space. Seems like 1st world problems to me.

Miro · January 2019

RonELuvv is right the cauldrons end up giving less charges than if you made draughts with the essences. Would be cool if the draughts had the essence amount reduced and the side ingredients increased slightly.

Huehuaehue · January 2019

ive heard the same, is pretty silly

BurkleyRIP · January 2019

Essences should be the same, other ingredients can be upped. No sense making cauldrons just to free up to bag spaces but lose 21 charges...

Kealadron · January 2019

tald wrote: »

Kealadron wrote: »

The material requirements to make a cauldron exceed the charges you'd get if you made those potions individually so we got a system that really does us no good other than saving bag space.

can you give us the calculations showing how much it exceeds it by

cauldron of supremacy: 99 charges
materials required as listed
495 icy distill
396 fiery distill
248 fermented blood root
17 ancient necrotic brain fluid
17 ancient lich tooth
4 essence of supremacy

potion of supremacy: 30 charges
materials required as listed
150 icy distill
120 fiery distill
75 fermented blood root
5 necrotic brain fluid
5 ancient lich tooth
1 essence of supremacy

x3 potions of supremacy = 90 charges
materials required from math
450 icy distill
360 fiery distill
225 fermented blood root
15 necrotic brain fluid
15 ancient lich tooth
3 essence of supremacy

long term cost if you could stack potions by 20
30 charges x 20 = 600 charges
material list
3,000 icy
2,000 fiery
1,500 fermented
100 brain
100 lich
20 essence

600 charge cauldron cost
6 cauldrons needed to 594 charges (less than 600 charges)
2,970 icy
2,376 fiery
1,488 fermented
102 necrotic
102 lich
24 essence

cauldrons cost a lot more in the long run, less on the icy, fiery, and fermented (which dont really matter that is merchant bought)
more on the necrotic, lich, and essence (matter a lot because the essence specifically are not easy to come by)

tald · January 2019

RonELuvv wrote: »

I can't give the calculations @tald

Since noone else wants to deal in facts - he're are some numbers.

Essences by farming actually easier to aqcuire than the Necrotic/Lich Teeth (Unless you have a 15 year stash like myself) - But i guess you could sit in barrows for hours and farm so there is that.

Draught Cauldron
Supremacy 30 99
per/charge per/charge
Icy Distill 5 5
Fiery Distill 4 4
Fermented Blood 2.5 2.505050505
Necrotic 0.166666667 0.171717172
Lich Tooth 0.166666667 0.171717172
Essence of Sup 0.033333333 0.04040404

Kealadron · January 2019

tald wrote: »

RonELuvv wrote: »

I can't give the calculations @tald

Since noone else wants to deal in facts - he're are some numbers.

Essences by farming actually easier to aqcuire than the Necrotic/Lich Teeth (Unless you have a 15 year stash like myself) - But i guess you could sit in barrows for hours and farm so there is that.

Draught Cauldron
Supremacy 30 99
per/charge per/charge
Icy Distill 5 5
Fiery Distill 4 4
Fermented Blood 2.5 2.505050505
Necrotic 0.166666667 0.171717172
Lich Tooth 0.166666667 0.171717172
Essence of Sup 0.033333333 0.04040404

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Armagedden · January 2019

All of you who are complaining... please stop its embarrassing... specialty potions are more easily created now than ever before. The essences are so easy to come by that I now have a stockpile, whereas before i was very sparing to sell my essences (celerity/supp) on housing because i would use 90% of it on myself. So using an extra essence to create a cauldron is nothing to me.

As far as the rare alch ingredients, you can literally sit in relic town and buy them in bulk now... and people still complain.

I agree with Broadswords decision on the recipe quantities I think it's more than fair.

What I don't agree with is sitting in town for 15 minutes while I unstack 100 individual essences and /use over and over and over... I think they should just put an essence merchant in and turn essences into currency and use them just like blood seals @Carol_Broadsword

BurkleyRIP · January 2019

Can I have your essences?

Kealadron · January 2019

Armagedden wrote: »

sitting in town for 15 minutes while I unstack 100 individual essences and /use over and over and over...
you who are complaining... please stop its embarrassing...

Might wanna watch what you say before you say it...

RonELuvv · January 2019

Armagedden wrote: »

All of you who are complaining... please stop its embarrassing... specialty potions are more easily created now than ever before.

I did say that I felt this was a "first world problem" so to speak. I don't think its a serious issue for most people. If you really want to save space in your bags the added cost to make cauldrons shouldn't be that big of a deal. Otherwise, as you pointed out, you can get essences easier now than before and alchemy ingredients aren't too bad to come by either. So if you don't run cauldrons it should theoretically be easier now than ever before.

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