Herorius Banned?

I have just heard from a few people that Herorius was banned for cheating. I heard he was caught cheating at the same thing 3 times in Caledonia. Can anyone confirm?
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  • Last rumor was 3 days for trebbing into APK.
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  • edited July 2020 PM
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  • Oh dear !
  • Suspended isn't banned
  • SS or it didn’t happen.
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  • There was a video: -
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  • Silly how those guards are so weak in comparison to border keep NPCs. Old code I suppose.
  • KatKat
    edited July 2020 PM
    I was wondering why the game has been so much more fun recently.
    Post edited by Kat on
  • 3 days of freedom. People can port around, there has been decent action in all the realms. Imagine a world with no Herorius...this is what it's like.
  • Keep him away. NF has been great to roam around in I feel like 8mans have been better off. Herorius logs into Caledonia and clears it, then has it all to himself. Game is better off without him
  • Is everybody finally realizing how lame it is to constantly run a BG vs nobody every day all day?
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  • No, they wont.
  • Armagedden wrote: »
    Keep him away. NF has been great to roam around in I feel like 8mans have been better off. Herorius logs into Caledonia and clears it, then has it all to himself. Game is better off without him

    Absolutely. I'd like to see him reset to RR1 lol
  • seriously ?

    BS gave a 3 day suspension over this to herorius ?

    people have been doing this since the first year of daoc in old fronteers without consequences.

    back on excalibur server, mid bg charged a portal keep in rvr and ONE mid got all the way to salsbury plains !! and got applauded for doing it!!!

    people have been catapulting pk's and and the release area at the border keeps since forever to kill afk's and bots without ever getting any consequences and now BS suspended herorius for 3 days for this ?

    BS .... shame on you ...you owe herorius an apology over this one. there's a lot of stuff he does i don't like, but this is just silly. shame on you.
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  • Muylae wrote: »
    seriously ?

    BS gave a 3 day suspension over this to herorius ?

    people have been doing this since the first year of daoc in old fronteers without consequences.

    back on excalibur server, mid bg charged a portal keep in rvr and ONE mid got all the way to salsbury plains !! and got applauded for doing it!!!

    people have been catapulting pk's and and the release area at the border keeps since forever to kill afk's and bots without ever getting any consequences and now BS suspended herorius for 3 days for this ?

    BS .... shame on you ...you owe herorius an apology over this one. there's a lot of stuff he does i don't like, but this is just silly. shame on you.

    This isn't 10+ years ago. The game has changed and so have the rules. They have put many things in place to prevent griefing. He was intentionally abusing old mechanics in an event setting to ruin the event for others.
  • Muylae wrote: »
    seriously ?

    BS gave a 3 day suspension over this to herorius ?

    people have been doing this since the first year of daoc in old fronteers without consequences.

    back on excalibur server, mid bg charged a portal keep in rvr and ONE mid got all the way to salsbury plains !! and got applauded for doing it!!!

    people have been catapulting pk's and and the release area at the border keeps since forever to kill afk's and bots without ever getting any consequences and now BS suspended herorius for 3 days for this ?

    BS .... shame on you ...you owe herorius an apology over this one. there's a lot of stuff he does i don't like, but this is just silly. shame on you.

    Shouldn't the rest of them that were doing this with Herorius be banned too instead scapegoating for the rest? Did all these players get banned for exploiting? It's pretty harsh to just ban one player lol.

  • Emery wrote: »
    There was a video: -

    What I find funny about all this is that Broadsword allow players to be able to catapult at the back of the portal keep. It's pretty much their own fault for not seeing this exploit and also should know that this happened in many other events when they've opened Caledonia. They could easily fix and stop players from going at the back of the keep but blah, banning players is easier i guess.
  • After chewing on this a bit, I suspect that Broadsword may have let all involved know that they didn't want them walking to that specific spot and added NPCs to kill anyone who was of the wrong realm. Moving forward and leaving the past behind :)



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  • It seems this happens every time they do the Caledonia event. I also heard they warned him several times before the suspension so there's that.
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  • Does this mean Herorius is a cheater like in a person who cheats or was it one of those bans that he was totally innocent and he wasn’t really cheating em like a cheat just curious
  • I mean yeah shame on Broadsword for issuing the suspension over this in the first place, kinda their fault anyways. But I hate both Herorius and Broadsword so let's continue shaming both of them
  • Brut wrote: »
    Does this mean Herorius is a cheater like in a person who cheats or was it one of those bans that he was totally innocent and he wasn’t really cheating em like a cheat just curious

    Sorry Brut ...This means that the ban / suspension of Herry is a totally nonsense thing .... or punish ALL the kampfgruppe or nobody [and yes, I was there too, I did not use catapults and I looked but by logic I am liable to sanction]. .... it is clear from the video how Herry limits himself to observe without using any catapult ..... the ban / suspension is because he was watching or because he did not stop the kampfgruppe? Or maybe because he dabbled in mountaineering? And anyway the Albs are Albs .......

  • edited July 2020 PM
    Ok so he was just observing well that clears that up.
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  • edited July 2020 PM
    So by that logic the whole hib bg should be banned why didn’t this happen ,sounds like Herorius is the fall guy big cover up here, the other 2 realms demand an investigation the question needs to be asked why wasn’t everyone in that keep dressed in green banned and not just for 3 day’s 3 years would have been a fair ban corruption and a cover up the Caledonia incident will go down In history as a worse Scandal than Hillary Clinton’s email history.
    Who in that keep was looking the other way
    Who was looking the wrong way
    And who was looking at me in a strange but seductive way.
    And who was the lurikeen with the red hair seen acting suspiciously at the inner door
    All very valid questions broadsword that neeed to be answered.
    mark my words a dark day for fair play in DAoC.
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  • My two cents: Was rather excited to see Caledonia was back so I subbed. After a few things ported into the HPK and was instantly hit by ice balls. Turns out some Mid was lobbing them into the HPK. This was the second or third day of the event and I figured the attack was allowed. Interesting.
  • Brut ... yes ....

    either ban / suspend the whole bg or you can not punish a single person just because he was there ...... be at that point looking at the panorama of the inner courtyard of APK, if I am not using catapults, trebuchets or just spitting in favor of wind, it cannot be considered exploitation of bugs and consequently punished.

    This is my opinion, then it's all there.

    And anyway, as the old Uncle Vuja said "penalty is when referee giving" useless to discuss now.
  • Brut wrote: »
    Ok so he was just observing well that clears that up.

    I think he also climbed up the wall of APK, that could be another reason he got the hammer. There is also another video out there of him trying to lag into the wall during a failed siege attempt so he is no stranger to cheating/exploiting accusations.
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  • Wow the plot thickens this story gets darker and darker
  • Less players will unsub if they only suspend a single leader rather than a group of followers.
  • no bg no play simple as that
  • edited July 2020 PM
    The point is that it seems Broadsword are happy to ban one person for exploiting but not the rest, i find that very unfair play as others were doing it also. Again, Broadswords fault alone and something should of been implemented to stop players from catapulting behind the PKs rather than banning them. It's not like he was doing anything wrong if the game mechanics allow him to do that. So the argument is, was it really an exploit if players can run up that hill and catapult at the top? I'm not defending a player for doing this but it's a question I think broadsword need to ask themselves on when they do these events is to make sure there is no advantages. It's okay to ask players not to do it but as others mentioned, it seems other realms did it too so should they be banned?
    Post edited by Solicfear1 on
  • That's like saying jumping in certain areas in PoC, AC, and CM to not get hit but you can hit mobs isn't exploiting lol
  • So are we saying Herorius is special and shouldn’t be banned for cheating just curious
  • Who cares...tomorrow he is back and paints the map green. And BS is doing nothing.
  • As per the terms of playing, what the BG did is considered going somewhere that you shouldn't be able to go even if you can go there by normal player walking. It is using an exploit to your advantage. You can still be killed by players or NPCs. You can still be hit from the PK but it puts you in position to attack the people in the PK who would be expecting to be safe.

    This happened on a Saturday. Some people in the BG were given warnings by Sunday. Some were not. Some people got suspensions on Monday and some did not. Lots of people involved and perhaps it is difficult to differentiate between those who were actively lobbing ice balls into the PK and those who were observing. For Hero, as the BG leader, he carries more responsibility for the actions of the BG so with that may come a greater penalty.

    Either way, it is done and will now be another part of DAOC lore and conversation until the next scandal.

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  • KatKat
    edited July 2020 PM
    Can someone tell Herorius that the last three days has been great for the game? And that if he needs to take empty keeps, to please leave the middle keeps alone? There are plenty of empty keeps he can siege, while still keeping ports open for healthier action for everyone.
    Post edited by Kat on
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    I know you have a hate on Herorius Brut and I don't really care if he got banned but is it really fair play if others were doing it and quite possibly doing it as much as Herorius. Just cuz he's a bg leader doesn't give the right to ban him to make an example of. That's just scapegoating the whole situation but if broadsword want to run it like this then just expect them to lose more subs.
  • Todays culture, get offended for somebody else.

    I don't see Hero or his lemmings here disputing, and we know Broadsword doesn't share this type of stuff.

    So, who cares why, or who did what. Sit on the forums and have an ethics discussion from the viewpoint of a bunch of people not involved. lol.
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    "the patch [1.127] is later this year" -Carol_Broadsword, aka "constable paddy biehbien of the **** local community Enforcement force "
    send a message with your wallet
  • edited July 2020 PM
    But saying that I bet the 8man action been brilliant in the last 3 days without herorius
    Post edited by Solicfear1 on
  • Solic you like a lot of people in this game think you know how I think I really don’t hate anyone in this game people make me angry sad bemused happy but I really don’t hate anyone in this game
    I’ve fell out with quite a few but I don’t hold grudges or harbour hate now if your gonna ask me if I think Herorius is good for the game I will say no but I do think it is very funny that he has been banned for cheating and people are saying he is innocent when broadsword have found him guilty Just very amusing.
  • Dale_Perf wrote: »
    Todays culture, get offended for somebody else.

    I don't see Hero or his lemmings here disputing, and we know Broadsword doesn't share this type of stuff.

    So, who cares why, or who did what. Sit on the forums and have an ethics discussion from the viewpoint of a bunch of people not involved. lol.



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    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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  • edited July 2020 PM
    Muylae wrote: »
    Dale_Perf wrote: »
    Todays culture, get offended for somebody else.

    I don't see Hero or his lemmings here disputing, and we know Broadsword doesn't share this type of stuff.

    So, who cares why, or who did what. Sit on the forums and have an ethics discussion from the viewpoint of a bunch of people not involved. lol.



    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    This isn't human rights, it's a video game.

    Also- his voice is not suspended or banned. His loyal team members can speak for him if the suspension isn't right.
    Post edited by Dale_Perf on
    "...the best thing to do if you disagree (or agree) isn't to ask us why (which is rhetorical)...." -John_Broadsword
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    send a message with your wallet
  • Good thread. Would read again.

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  • Wow has amnesty international been contacted seems like we need them on here
  • Can we get a go fund me for a lawyer for Herorius I mean he wasn’t cheating was he or was he I’m confused
  • He was using an exploit which is against the ToS. Why more players weren't suspended is questionable but likely to avoid them from unsubscribing. Hence my earlier statement.
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