Weekend RvR
Rescu and Xyorman do not appear to be leading a BG during US prime on the weekends anymore. I was told through the grapevine that many from the Mid BG have switched over to the flaming bird. This is unfortunate considering the weekends had all three Realms active at one time. As a result, I am considering to lead an Alb BG on Saturday against the Hero BG during US prime. If Smeger is still around, we can have ourselves a nice wholesome three way. 
I will continue to lead a Hib BG Sunday nights if an opposing force is present. Last night was slower than previous weekends but we managed to have fun with the Mids. Those were some fun fights, Jenini. You do a really good job holding the roof on EV towers. Makes me miss the old bridges with ladders. The fight at Glen was also great even though we wiped. I won't shy away from bringing the action out.
See you all next weekend.
I will continue to lead a Hib BG Sunday nights if an opposing force is present. Last night was slower than previous weekends but we managed to have fun with the Mids. Those were some fun fights, Jenini. You do a really good job holding the roof on EV towers. Makes me miss the old bridges with ladders. The fight at Glen was also great even though we wiped. I won't shy away from bringing the action out.
See you all next weekend. "The grab bag isn't for explaining every single class change decision or reasoning or that's all we would ever do." - John_Broadsword
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Obviously the bird has put a dent in population, but it just opened. With some time that population will drop. As others have stated in other threads, I don't think losing some of the BG leaders is a bad thing. Maybe other forms of RvR will start to happen again. It's not doubt that as zergs get bigger and bigger than 8 vs 8, small man, and solo takes a hit. Maybe if these BG leaders quit leading others will start doing other forms of RvR.
I do agree that you won't get everyone back, but those that stay away were probably going to leave regardless if a new server opened up. I would also point out that when Vold 1.0 was around and closed it got myself, @Sleepwell, my buddy Corey and his wife, and our friend Adi to all come back and try live. 4 of the 5 of us are still around. So there is still opportunity for BS to get lots of old players back to live through this free server.
All BS can do is to try and make it so when people do come back that they stay. Fixing bug's, making the game cheaper, trying to learn from past mistakes (OW/Curse) and focus on what the majority of players look to do when they play here is what will get BS through this.
By the way, since alot of your 8-16 man is not running as much due to a decline in population, then you need to hit me up and hop in TS!! We haven't heard from you in FOREVER!!!
wish a certain brit didnt roll mid though lol
RL happens from time to time.
Not so much an assumption as an observation. Alb population during US prime has been extremely low for over a week. I am simply offering up a solution, even if temporary, to keep the three-way action strong.
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That my friend is an assumption! You did not have all or any information concerning why Rescu wasn't on and by the sound of it Xyorman as well. Again RL happens and just because someone isn't in game does not mean that they have given up on leading anything.
This. I have no interest in taking over another Realm.
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If that is the case, he should have made that statement instead of assuming BG leaders were not leading anymore. He is putting out misleading information that is incorrect for other players. If you do not have the information then keep your assumption to yourself.
They both have the opportunity to clarify. @Xyorman and @Rescu
I understand very well that RL takes priority over the game. However, their absence has been noted. It's not meant to be dissuasive. No need to be defensive.
"The type of of dev communication of 30 mins a day updates mentioned here just isn't feasible." - Carol_Broadsword
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Zero isn't quite correct. I know less about Albs status than Mids. Regardless, the offer still stands. They've been absent and can clarify if they desire.
"The type of of dev communication of 30 mins a day updates mentioned here just isn't feasible." - Carol_Broadsword
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Of course there is people to blame too, because they would never join someone new, even if have numbers running around. It's easy to see that both Alb and Mid took a hit recently, which can be solved, but many hopped alternate games or to Hib side. Until someone show up that people are willing to follow, and announce their BG in the right way, this is unlikely to change, it's just what it is right now.
http://www.excidio.net/herald/stats/realm/
Easy to see the drop on playercount, and RPS, however these stats by itself doesn't mean much, so need to examine it like such. Even so, it might indicate recent absence of leadership, and some of playerbase atm.
I understand why the op doesn’t want to squash the little remaining action left, because it just forces everyone to log off.
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People do not run or participate in BGs on Ywain as much as they used to, because there's a more attractive offer elsewhere. While they may not have cancelled - assuming they can afford to not play a game they are paying for - they are surely thinking about doing so, even if its only temporary. They may be back once they novelty wears off or play sporadically at weekends in order to see how things are panning out, but there are no guarantees. Its a high stakes game from BS's standpoint to allow players to drift away like this, considering they may never come back. The Origins poll for a few years ago evaporated and the Endless Conquest will be a year late, if it launches.
Broadsword elected to prioritize masks, pet patches and MTX respecs over a proper FTP model, at the same time that a free alternative was looming in the rear view mirror. They underestimated the threat and are witnessing the consequences.
Over the years, many games have come along and tried to replicate or at least provide a comparable RVR experience to DAOC, or the next new MMO came out and tried to take a chunk of the pie. With each incarnation, the player-base thinned out, but many of them came back. I find it ironic that after all the threats over the years, the death of DAOC may end up being itself.
I have no plans to play on the bird, would bring back some memories of my old Alb/Bors days and mostly make me feel sad. I have met new friends now and would rather not conjure up old memories.
This and a few other things; there is no urgency in repairing realm....Dark Age of Questalot isn't much fun....
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I loved this part of your post @Auberne. So many people think that if BS just did X, Y, or Z that it would be a magical fix and everyone would come back, but people fail to realize that there is a plethora of reason why people leave. Many of those people are not coming back, even if you "fixed" what upset them to begin with, not to mention that any of those "fixes" you would do would turn around and upset another player and possibly cause them to quit. That is one of the biggest issues that a MMO runs into. With so many players and different playstyles you can't please everyone.
A perfect example of this was hunter. When I started here 2 years ago hunter was an absolute beast. Their pet and kiting capabilities made it so a hunter could pretty much kill anything with ease if played well. People were upset about it and complained in the forums. I played a hunter as my second toon and I had to agree that the pets were over the top. After enough complaints BS put the nerf hammer on them and changed ALOT on the class. I might even agree that they over did it a bit. That upset certain players that played that as their main. I know of one that left over it. Now how does BS handle that issue? Do they try and please the masses that thought hunters were op'd in their current state or do they try and keep the people playing hunters happy? Now multiply this one tiny issue by about 100,000 or more and you can see how every little change can upset any # of players, especially over all that has changed in 18+ years.
@Muylae has a great point. Theres already new cake being offered. Add another slice to the buffet line and who knows.
@RonELuvv and i have discussed this many times. Small changes please. small... tiny... not game changing... not in an 18 year old game. Start small... its easier to roll back if it was a mistake... its easier to add to if its not enough. Making grandiose class or game changes is a bad idea.
With CU on the horizon there’s not much time left to ‘fix’ things. F2P is very late to the game and it’s not the only deal in town anymore...
GL
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But, I get your point.
Amen to that! Like you said, small changes allow for adjustment. Big changes are harder to adjust on the fly.
Agreed 100%!! I'm more worried about CU than I am about that other server. BS needs to get stuff rolling well before CU is released, in order to stem the flow of people leaving to try other pastures.
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I like that they post it publicly
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yes, i couldn't agree more, small changes. BS tends to overdo every change they do. using a sledge hammer where a scalpel is needed is one of the things that upsets a lot of people. hunters, necromancers, so many examples. better to change not enough and change a bit more if still needed later on than to overdo it and then leave it or nerf it imho.
well put
this needs to be done live!