Suggestion for Population Bonus Changes

Ewer · August 2018

Underpopulated realms continue to get current RP bonus as-is.

In addition to the current RP bonus I propose extra bonuses for those realms in their home land.

1. Underpopulated realms CK doors, tower doors, oil, and all guards receive bonus HP.
2. Underpopulated realms players receive small AF/HP/Magic Dmg and Melee damage while in their home realms ONLY.
3. Only players that have earned RPs count toward population
4. Kills of players from most populated relam are worth more (This applies everywhere, not just home lands)
5. Keeps and towers upgrade faster

Explanations:
1 and 2 help setup the underpopulated realm into a defensive posture in their home realm. A bonus for keep takes/defense in that realm could also be implemented (and apply to all realms)to encourage the higher population realm to attack. It only works in their home realms.

3 helps to eliminate any idea that using a buff bott hurts your realm. AFK players shouldn't count toward population bonus. It also eliminates the conspiracy theory that realms log bots into other realms to affect population bonus.

4 The current system encourages the two underpopulated realms to just fight each other and ignore the highest population realm as much as possible. By making players from the highest population realm worth more you encourage players from the underpopulated realms to focus on them.

5 Helps the underpopulated realms recover keeps and towers and encourage them to try and do so (making them more defendable in a shorter amount of time)

Here is a suggestion of what this could look like:

81-90% population of most populated realm:
+10% RPs
+5% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+2% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+5% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+5% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+3% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

71-80% population of most populated realm:
+25% RPs
+10% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+3% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+7% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+10% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+6% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

61-70% population of most populated realm:
+40% RPs
+15% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+4% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+9% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+15% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+9% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

51-60% population of most populated realm:
+55% RPs
+20% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+5% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+11% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+20% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+12% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

41-50% population of most populated realm:
+70% RPs
+25% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+6% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+13% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+25% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+15% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

31-40% population of most populated realm:
+85% RPs
+30% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+7% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+15% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+30% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+18% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

0-30% population of most populated realm:
+100% RPs
+35% Rps for killing players from most populated realm
+8% HP/AF/Magic dmg/Melee dmg to players in their home land
+17% HP/AF/DMG buff to realm guards in home realm
+35% HP to CK walls/doors/oil in home realm
+21% Upgrade speed to Keeps and Towers in home realm

BurkleyRIP · August 2018

I kinda like this idea. Although Hero won’t as the keeps will take longer to take lol

Staticc · August 2018

I'm not opposed to any of these ideas, however the feasibility of coding that to keep up with the pop bonus as fast as it changes may not be something the 1999 servers can handle.

I do like the look of more "tiered" style bonus based on precentage, as described above 81-90%=Defcon 1 and those bonuses are X, Y, and Z. Maybe that is something to work with.

Fateboi · August 2018

Fairly decent ideas but the more bonuses you continue to hand out it becomes a slippery slope. There is already a blanket bonus to rps earned I thought even before this even started.

The continuing cycles of DPS/gear creep become multiplied when attempting to balance classes. Note: the past 2-3 years of patches

People think patch will save this game are going to be let down

Staticc · August 2018

Fateboi I think not patching this game will kill it faster..... please see the last 6 months...

Ewer · August 2018

Staticc wrote: »

I'm not opposed to any of these ideas, however the feasibility of coding that to keep up with the pop bonus as fast as it changes may not be something the 1999 servers can handle.

I do like the look of more "tiered" style bonus based on precentage, as described above 81-90%=Defcon 1 and those bonuses are X, Y, and Z. Maybe that is something to work with.

Well they already have a system in place to determine population bonus, it updates every 15 min and applies an RP bonus per realm. With the new dragon keep event they have shown us they have to ability to do an area-based buff. These two could be leveraged to apply much of what I propose above.

Staticc · August 2018

Okay @Ewer That can can be updated every 15 min, I will conceed that point. Do you think that could be abused with some of the other bonuses attached to them? I think they could, If that updates every 15 min, Then I would propose a 15 realm switch timer. That not long enough to screw with people that are going to swap, you can all log out, go bio, smoke, get a drink refill, talk with spose, gather who is logging on what etc. and its not to much inconvience, and would insure that the bonus would not get abuse.

For the second point, can we agree that 75% bonus is bugged AF? I mean I still show the buff up in relic town on my buff bots sometimes. The zone buff does not work. I would put it on the bugg list, but it doesn't seem it gets any attention anyways. We have asked for many things to get improved and its just deaf ears.

Staticc · August 2018

And just to be clear, this is aside from my 8v8 requests, simple things like the crystal on hib safe port, or porting on safe port, those posts that are genuine buggs and basic things that need to get fixed that I don't start. That stuff is just boggeling that its flat out ignored.

Ewer · August 2018

Staticc wrote: »

Okay @Ewer That can can be updated every 15 min, I will conceed that point. Do you think that could be abused with some of the other bonuses attached to them? I think they could, If that updates every 15 min, Then I would propose a 15 realm switch timer. That not long enough to screw with people that are going to swap, you can all log out, go bio, smoke, get a drink refill, talk with spose, gather who is logging on what etc. and its not to much inconvience, and would insure that the bonus would not get abuse.

For the second point, can we agree that 75% bonus is bugged AF? I mean I still show the buff up in relic town on my buff bots sometimes. The zone buff does not work. I would put it on the bugg list, but it doesn't seem it gets any attention anyways. We have asked for many things to get improved and its just deaf ears.

I'm not really seeing how swapping realms would allow this to be abused. The scenario is everyone stacks one realm, waits 15 minutes for their realm to get the bonus, and then goes back to their original realm to enjoy the bonus for 15 minutes?

Possible bugs aside I really think something more than just an RP buff needs to be done to help with population issues.

Staticc · August 2018

Oh I agree, I just think a 15 min timmer removes a lot unknown factors for abuse. But the zone buff is a joke atm, It has more of its own mind than something that was programmed.

Ramik · August 2018

Huge fan of this idea.

Koredan · August 2018

I like the idea but I think the buffs it should only effect grouped players otherwise it might really mess up soloing in home realm (and soloers aren't really affected by disproportionate population anyway)

Staticc · August 2018

@Koredan Valid point.

BurkleyRIP · August 2018

Don’t worry, the zergs will chase those soloers down and kill them anyway

Ewer · August 2018

Staticc wrote: »

@Koredan Valid point.

Ya I was hoping by limiting it to just the home realm they could choose to avoid the area if they wanted. It also helps keep fights on EV balanced (where a lot of stealth/solo/8v8s seem to occur) but maybe it shouldn't apply to the solo area. I think solos should still get the bonus other places in their home realm though.

Ewer · August 2018

Or maybe only make the +hp/af/dmg buffs require a group but still allow them to benefit from increased rps, etc.

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