Realm PBAE Discussion
@Broadsword Why not Re-add a snare component ONLY to the level 50 Warlock PBAE spell and one to the Necro highest PBAE spell (still lower delve). Mid only has two pbae classes and are underperforming in keep defense. Albs are mostly running Ice wizards but adding a snare component to a lower delve necro class could possibly even the playing field to Hibernia. I'm proposing adding a snare component to make pbae mean something in a realm other than Hibernia (which is still doing well compared to other realms as their pbae specs are more prevalent).
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Corpseshovel - Oldstanky - Nogvi
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midgard wasn't able to do the ghost keep ONCE during EU prime time. i wonder how much times hero did it.
the uneven distribution of pbaoe love between realms just made the in-balance even more profound. hero outnumbers the mid bg 2 to 1, 95+ % of the time, mid has underpop bonus 95 % of the time. mid bg probably hasn't won from another BG in open field in the last two weeks. only chance for mid bg to win a bg vs bg fight is in a keep WHEN irc is on mid. otherwise forget it, not even worth defending.
and the love for pbaoe on warlocks is a joke, a warlock who specs 50 curse does less damage than a warlock who specs 49 curse with uninterruptible pbaoe due to the mechanics of the uninterruptible primer. it's the savages all over again with the climb walls.
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You ever thought about speccing moc ? i do it on my necro as well so i have 2 mocs and i can use the rr5 to boost damage.
with the way the warlock is constructed with only one base line spell line, a warlock doesn't get much benefit from other speclines outside of his main line. warlocks are extremely specialized in their main line. realistically, you have your specline and then you choose a secondary line to get the first chamber and primers from that line. you get like zero benefit outside of that from your secondary line. the primer from hexing (the uninterruptible one) has been BADLY nerfed in the past and now for a lousy increase in damage compared to what the other pbaoe classes get you lose the level 22 uninterruptible primer from hexing and have to use the lower level one which means far greater power use and even further reduction in damage. so to get the higher delve spell, you have to use more power (oop in 3 spells) to do equal damage as before because the reduction in damage from using the lower level primer negates the higher delve.
the whole point about warlocks is that they can avoid having moc because (in case of curse) the have a spec line bolt, a NS and a pbaoe which they can use uninterruptible, at extremely high power cost with less damage than max spec moc. if warlocks have to spec moc, BS will need to improve the class drastically in other regards to keep it up to par with other classes. warlock damage from range is meh at best compared to the other pbaoe classes or the other pbaoe classes have way more utility and tools.
Soooo you don't spec moc because you a nerfed version for free? doesn't sound like the brightest idea.
Anytime MoC is more useful than every 10 minutes. They can offset the mitigated damage by spending those 30RSPs between MoM, AA, and WP. Granted, you probably only need it up every 10 minutes based on the action in today's game.
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We know Muy is rr11/12/13+ w/e it is. At that rate there is no reason not to have two MOC's.
However this dosnt stop the fact that you could spec moc just like i do on my necro to have a better version of the free one for when you need it and to use it with the higher delve pbaoe.
1) the uninterrupted primer is not a moc. it only affects some spells.
2) why is the level 50 warlock pbaoe spell 50 points in delve lower than the other level 50 pbaoe spells ?
Also not for nothing but the 199 delve nuke in cursing is better then a 179 baseline Mana chanters use. Plus if you have 5 locks in a grp for a bomber setup you could shoot 5 bolts at a target.
But you know QQ buff my class wah wah
a) warlocks when they first came out were outright retarded, agree. i only made a warlock AFTER the big change to warlocks, so my only experience with the initial version of warlocks was the retarded, i slam my head in the keyboard, and laugh at my dead target(s) version, was on the receiving end when i played albion.
i am not asking for that.
b) the level 22 uninterruptible primer does 65 % damage and costs 25 % power for each cast. not exactly moc 5 is it ? the level 50 pbaoe spell does 365, but the uninterruptible primer you get than does 60 % damage and cost 32 % power. how does this compare to 75 % of 425 delve for 30 seconds with a real moc 5 ? even if warlocks would spec moc 5, it would still be 75 % of 365 compared to 75% of 425. and it would leave the warlock with almost nothing from secondary spec due to no baselines in the secondary.
c) yeah, but warlocks seem to lose more than other classes with going for 50.
d) you want to compare a 199 delve on a warlock with a chanter with a 179 with stun and heat debuff ? yeah, a chanter who goes from 48 mana to 50 mana will drop his light spec from 24 to 20 and have a bit more variance on his nuke, but will still do more damage and has the synergy with eldritches and mentalists who can also benefit from the heat debuff. no synergy whatsoever for warlock + any other class that is comparable.
e) oh and 5 wizards or 5 whatever can't shoot 5 bolts at a target ?
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you honestly think that a mid group with a combination of 3 pbaoe spec warlocks/SMs is in the same league as a hib group with 3 mana/light chanters/eldritches when it comes to both pbaoe and ranged damage ?
what group setup do you normally run on hib
Corpseshovel - Oldstanky - Nogvi
The reason people hate to PvP is they are afraid of failure