RA question
I've been hearing nonstop complaints about the new pbaoe changes in keep battles.
Got me thinking.
How does the 40% Bedazzling Aura stack with the 30% soldiers barricade? Then add in armor and resists from buffs? Maybe a group/aoe Magic ablative chant (add a class with SOS?). If all of the above lasts 30 seconds, seems there might be enough time frame for some counterplay there.
I might be mildly challenged, but seems to me that there are counters to pbaoeing already in the game, just takes some strategy.
But also, serious question to how the above stacks.
Got me thinking.
How does the 40% Bedazzling Aura stack with the 30% soldiers barricade? Then add in armor and resists from buffs? Maybe a group/aoe Magic ablative chant (add a class with SOS?). If all of the above lasts 30 seconds, seems there might be enough time frame for some counterplay there.
I might be mildly challenged, but seems to me that there are counters to pbaoeing already in the game, just takes some strategy.
But also, serious question to how the above stacks.
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Sounds like a plan.... not!
Heros have Fury and their cloak. If they use both they can go in lordroom with >5bombs, use powerdrain, and kill the bombs. Thats how you can get in a lordroom, even with several bombs inside, where other classes would die instant.
Invite your friendly Armsman, Warrior or Hero and have them pop Rampage
Jop.
No you don't. Hibs don't bring a void eld to 50% single target energy debuff for pbae. Albs dont bring a Body sorc to 50% single target debuff for cold. Mids dont bring a Dark SM specifically to 50% single target debuff for spirit inside pbae... Not to mention mid and alb are pbae'ing 2 or even 3(alb) different damage types.
And the toys brought up above are all second line (and some 3rd) not 1st so it wouldn't be a direct negation.
Fury, Rampage, class cloak are no 2nd line
Bedazzling Aura is a secondary magic resist decrease.
Soldiers Barricade is an (imo crappy) absorb debuff that hits AFTER all resists and such are taken into account.
So if you had 26% to resists and you got nuked for 500
You'd get hit for 500 * (1-.26) = 370 damage
Then if you had 20% from Bedazzling Aura you'd have
370 damage * (1-.2) = 296 damage
Then if you had 20% from Soldiers Barricade you'd have
296 damage * (1-.2) = 236 (game truncates decimals) damage
So for 20% BA and 20% Soldiers Barricade you went from 370 to 236 damage = 36% reduction in damage for the group for a very short period of time and for a high realm ability cost.
Meh
But yeah for pbae concerns you don't get debuffed so yeah the return is lower
The question was about BA and SB stacking, which is what the point of my response was.
Now more on subject, enkertons is correct (though if you get debuffed they are better but still not normally enough to live though a few pbaoe now adays)
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THE WHOLE GROUP has a 60 second turn ALL single target DD's into a 300 radius AOE. Most META groups are running 2 chanters currently.
For the chanter that's the 199d 2.6s body dd, or the 209d +10% heat decrease 2.8s
For Ment it's probably 209d 2.8s heat (or energy)
For Eld it's 179d 40% slow 2.8s energy or 209d 2.8s cold (or 179 2.6s)
Ani/VW obviously 179d 2.5s 50% lifetap
Also impacts bolts, so great tool for bombing/breaking a pile.
or 12% melee resist charge, your choice /snickers.
Hibs are very OP in keep siege defense/take situations. This is only a small part of the reason why.
But it prolly got changed and doesn't show up on Google results, because of course.
Figured it was something like having chanter able to give all the climb wall tanks extra dmg (mana aoedd buff), and giving 1 healer double heals, and the rest 33% more heals. On top of Bedazzling Aura and a healpet. Plus loyalty cloak.
But I haven't played daoc since right after the chanter changes so this is all theorycrafting (plus some 8v8 experience).
Spells like the mana eld 179 dd/snare or light chanter 209/10% debuff are double component spells and do not work, a light chanter that wants to utilize this has to switch to his baseline nuke, also mauler nukes, animist bombers and bolts thankfully do not work with it(if you get aoe bolted it's a bainshee doing it). Lifetaps do work as well as things like bard/champ instant dd's. The most powerful nuke you can use with it is bainshee baseline which is somewhat rare to see.
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All of the new higher delve PBAOE’s should be reverted back
https://divoxutils.com/users/user_2ZTPHy8tjVF9LWMgujSZfCY9Mos/characters
I don't disagree that they should be reverted back but clearly a RR12+ heavy tank train doesn't die quickly enough if you ask Xuu.
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Can't be talking about mid heavies, no one plays them. I started playing a warrior only 3-4 months ago. Most fun I've ever had playing the game. Unfortunately in last few months i couldn't play it much since Pac healers are most needed. When I had to play something else my playtime went from 30+ hours a week to none.
Even with the disparity of population I'd resub if they revert the pbae.