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Over powered abilities for stealth need to be nerfed or get rid off

PleazingPleazing
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There is no reason for these high DPS classes to have such abilities. There is no justification for them either. They are overpowered abilities that make any fight vs visibles unfair. I wanna know BS reason for them if they do not nerf or delete these abilities.
  1. Get rid of or nerf mezz poison, blink, phase shift, instant speed buff and vanish5 votes
    1. Nerf abilities
      40.00%
    2. Delete ablities
      60.00%
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  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Not voting on a poll that was created with an obvious emotional basis attached.
  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Also, because I play a Ranger and s Nightshade.
  • 47el47el
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    if there was no stealth what would the 8 mans kill at night lol
  • 47el47el
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    it almost seems that some of them switch realms to kill them :)
  • ImpoundedImpounded
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    1) Nerf Abilities
    2) Delete Abilities
    3) Keep Abilities

    Next time add the third option to your list. Also my vote is number 3.
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  • TyrantanicTyrantanic
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    I honestly hate vanish but I understand the rationale for providing Assassins with an escape card. All the other abilities are fine. Didn't vote due to poor options.
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  • FateboiFateboi
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    Stealth classes have already been nerfed many times since the revamp. Not voting on a poll because OP does to a stealther
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  • HellblastHellblast
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    Mezz poisson need à 5 or 10 minutes timers and blur need to be removed .
  • scerffscerff
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    Blur and mezz poison are really annoying at the moment. Nothing worse then kiting stealth on a caster just to have them blur to you and kill you. Sick. Also #removestealth2019 it ruins the game. I think stealth seriously hurts population. Wtf would anyone new want to play a game when they just get farmed by an enemy they can't see, oh and it's usually like 5 of them too. ****. Remove stealth, give them all 800 extra hits, and let them keep their stupid abilities
  • CreaperCreaper
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    Stealth is free rp's I like them.
  • FateboiFateboi
    edited March 2019 PM
    They already nerfed mezz poison and Blur a few times. Blame the stealth revamp tbh. Also if they removed stealth they would lose over 1/2 of the active players left possibly more.

    GL
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  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    I think Creaper they are referring to Hib stealth groups
  • scerffscerff
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    I'm referring to all stealth groups, they're all trash played by trash players
  • scerffscerff
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    #removestealth2019
  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Ahh. Guess I’m trash then. Always good to insult people I guess.
  • SiambraSiambra
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    I float (stealth) across EV and New Frontiers looking for people to run from. I think I have this backwards but you never know.

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  • ShokeShoke
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    Lol Scerff’s on a mission.

    It’s just sad that a huge chunk of the server pop are stealthers right now. Annoying tbh when soloing on a visi, not a big deal when grouping. When prime time is gone it gets worse.
  • FateboiFateboi
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    Only solo I saw 8’s let go is respectme and they had already killed him before. That’s why ruined keeps are so fun because you can hide a bit as a visible.
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  • stewbeedoostewbeedoo
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    Sorry - can't respond to a post that is not more specific in terms of the abilities. I think stealth is pretty ok right now.

    The only issue I have is with Vanish. I do pretty well against stealthers in general, but it is super annoying to have them vanish when they're about to die. Even more annoying when you're fighting 1 v 3 and you know you are going to die, but are about to take 1 down, then they vanish. :'(

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  • PracticianPractician
    edited March 2019 PM
    Impounded wrote: »
    1) Nerf Abilities
    2) Delete Abilities
    3) Keep Abilities

    Next time add the third option to your list. Also my vote is number 3.

    Yep, pollster is an obvious antistealther democrat!

    Damn socialists want to control everything.
    Post edited by Practician on
  • KoeKoe
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    Vanish should require that you kill someone before it activates. Other than that, I have no problems with any of the abilities listed above.
  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Hmm, I think I know who Flowerwhiffer is. lol
  • BadgorBadgor
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    I dont see the problem with vanish majority of the time you can find them and kill them any ways. Blurr is to close the gap faster and we are disarmed while we do it. The stealth game is hard to play every one now a days can find you in one way or another when I play my Hero I drool at stealther's when I find them because i'm going to at least kill one of them. Isnt the real problem with the game right now Heretics not the stealth class.

  • DreamscapeDreamscape
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    The only change I would like to see is the stealth movement back to the way it was with archers moving faster. I thought that was the reason assassins were able to get blur so they could cover the distance.
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  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    I believe so with all the cc a lot of casters have these days.
  • PracticianPractician
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    I wouldn't mind seeing archers move same as assassins. but don't slow us down. assassin speed is fine as is.
  • 47el47el
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    would be nice if minnys would get a boost in stealth speed with the level of stealth they were trained in
  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Quit complaining Flower. Even in a guild group you are doing yer own thing. lol
  • CreaperCreaper
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    Remove Remedy from archers imo, no reason they should get to negate a whole spec line for free.
  • MuylaeMuylae
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    Siambra wrote: »
    I float (stealth) across EV and New Frontiers looking for people to run from. I think I have this backwards but you never know.

    fwgajhc0p8jn.jpg

    perfect stealth, all penguins will be caught by surprise by the murderous killer bunny....

    :D
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  • MuylaeMuylae
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    Flowerwhiffer wrote: »
    Impounded wrote: »
    1) Nerf Abilities
    2) Delete Abilities
    3) Keep Abilities

    Next time add the third option to your list. Also my vote is number 3.

    Yep, pollster is an obvious antistealther democrat!

    Damn socialists want to control everything.

    no politics, ok ?
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  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Yeah, probably a good idea. I was told by my parents when I was younger to not discuss politics or religion. But then again I don’t want to live in the USSA(R) either.
  • MuylaeMuylae
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    Keltorius wrote: »
    Yeah, probably a good idea. I was told by my parents when I was younger to not discuss politics or religion. But then again I don’t want to live in the USSA(R) either.

    you can discuss those subjects all you want in private (with the right people), but not in public.
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  • ImpoundedImpounded
    edited March 2019 PM
    Yeah, not wise in this age of the snowflake. Can't discuss anything without offending someone.

    On the topic of OP abilities I would be fine with Archers having to RA spec into Remedy. But my opinion doesn't carry much weight at all as I don't play archers.
    Post edited by Impounded on
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  • DreamscapeDreamscape
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    47el wrote: »
    would be nice if minnys would get a boost in stealth speed with the level of stealth they were trained in

    Would be nice but not needed with the amount of utility they bring to a stealth group.
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  • ShananagansShananagans
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    Impounded, u still on live or eating chicken?
  • ImpoundedImpounded
    edited March 2019 PM
    Not a fan of chicken, I have been in the process of moving. I jump on live from time to time for a little bit.
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    Post edited by Impounded on
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  • ShananagansShananagans
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    Cool beans
  • JollygreenjerkJollygreenjerk
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    I like chicken
  • scerffscerff
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    I, for one, am shocked that this turned into a strealther trash love fest. Just kidding you guys obviously have to Zerg something to win anyway.
    #removestealth2019
  • FateboiFateboi
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    47el wrote: »
    would be nice if minnys would get a boost in stealth speed with the level of stealth they were trained in

    Not needed in stealth minstrel is pretty powerful
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  • KeltoriusKeltorius
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    Damn, sure is quiet. No more Scerff stealth hate? lol
  • Corey117Corey117
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    I honestly think they are in the best place right where they are at, the only thing i hate are stealth zergs, but ehhhh its part of the game
  • KeltoriusKeltorius
    edited March 2019 PM
    It’s hard to small man/duo with no man population at times At 6am EST weekdays it’s usually 25-35 on Hib anyways
    Post edited by Keltorius on
  • NightmareNightmare
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    I have to say, I was against this thread, until the other night Sakibombs blink'd to me on the wall of the inner CK, without any doors open or anything.. I didnt think that inner CK was blinkable without it being open to all.
  • ShokeShoke
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    That’s an exploit if he did, if you have video that’s a bannable offense (lol)
  • Corey117Corey117
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    Yall just mad cause you probably never killed him.... and i dont think it should be bannable unless he abused it, but thats not his fault it worked, i seen peoplw blur into a CK front door while chasing me, right timing could make that happen, doesnt me someone should be banned for it, hell he is always solo! You shouldnt get mad atleast he doesnt stealth zerg
  • TyrantanicTyrantanic
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    Corey117 wrote: »
    Yall just mad cause you probably never killed him.... and i dont think it should be bannable unless he abused it, but thats not his fault it worked, i seen peoplw blur into a CK front door while chasing me, right timing could make that happen, doesnt me someone should be banned for it, hell he is always solo! You shouldnt get mad atleast he doesnt stealth zerg

    I've seen him with Igny before. Otherwise, you're correct.

    I've honestly never seen Saki do anything that could be considered cheating. Kicks my ass every time or vanishes. /shrug
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  • ShokeShoke
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    @Keltorius I’m sure you guys are doing eveything in your power to run solo/smallman...
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